Robin Van Persie

[Taz]

une bonne année sur 8 passées pour la plupart à l'infirmerie, replacé dans l'axe pour devenir un des meilleurs buteurs d'europe alors que lui même n'y croyais pas....voilà la gratitude de rvp, celle d'un footeux qui ne pense qu'au fric. Soit ! vendons le cher, même à city, ce sont les seuls à pouvoir payer cash un énorme paquet de pognon. Arsenal s'est toujours relevé des départs de leur meilleurs joueurs, encore cette année après les départs de cesc et nasri nous avons fini à une meilleure place que lorsqu'ils étaient là.

souvenez vous quand henry est parti, eduardo (un bel inconnu) à l'époque à débarqué. Avec adébayor ils ont formé une belle paire d'attaquants. Nul doute que giroud prendra la succession, ou un autre d'ailleurs. Arsène se trompe rarement pour les attaquants. J'aimerais trop qu'arsenal négocie avec le PSG...ça lui ferait la bite

on s'en doutait tous, je voulais l'année dernière que le capitaine soit vermaelen, je le trouve plus sincère (je serais peut être déçu) et plus mûr pour cela. J'en ai un peu marre qu'arsène file le brassard à un joueur pour essayer de le retenir, ce n'est pas juste pour les autres. Il est temps que nous ayons un capitaine digne de ce nom.

exacte et de plus eux aussi sont capable de payer cache un gros pacqué !

[gunner4life]

moi aussi bien sûr mais il veut voir ailleurs, que ce soit pour le fric ou par perte de motivation comme on l'a constaté en fin de saison. Clichy n'avançait plus chez nous après 8 ans passés dans le même club, il avait besoin d'un nouveau challenge professionnel, comme le disait Shape plus haut, un footeux comme n'importe quel professionnel a besoin d'un nouveau challenge après 6/8 ans passés dans la même boîte. Ca peut aussi se comprendre. Ce qui m'énerve le plus c'est qu'il n'a fait qu'une seule saison bonne et régulière chez nous, il a souvent pénalisé le club par ses longues périodes d'indisponibilités et dès qu'il fait une bonne année hop il se barre et fait une déclaration inapropriée qui pourrait faire baisser son prix de vente. Autant en prendre un max de fric

[Atys]

Oui on peut certes le comprendre mais il y'a l'art et la manière.
C'est sûr que lui il n'aura pas sa statue à l'Emirates.
Et se barrer comme ça après 8 ans franchement je ne l'en croyais pas capable.
Ceci dit, comme d'habitude on s'en remettra et on supportera le club, je fais toujours confiance à Arsene  même si là il a du s'en prendre un petit coup derrière la tête..
Il faut admettre que le foot change, comme le monde et les paramètres ne sont plus les mêmes.
De plus en plus les intérêts financiers vont prendre le pas sur l'amour du maillot, c'est une évidence, à quelques joueurs près qui deviennent des légendes.
Mais, finalement maintenant les légendes les mecs ils s'en foutent aussi si ils gagnent 10000 euros de plus par semaine.
Alors, restera t il encore quelques puristes ou décalés pour nous donner un peu d'espoir ?

[gunner4life]

peut être que cette déclaration est un fake...quoi que depuis l'heure à laquelle ça été posté il aurait démenti.
Donc aucune surprise, on sait qu'il va attérir à city ou au PSG....pour un nouveau challenge sportif. Il en discutera avec kolo et dzeko

[Atys]

Au PSG
Super le challenge ....

[Bouligoal]

Et comme chaque été, on repart à zéro car on ne se renforce pas, au contraire, on s'affaiblit un peu ... Mais bon, ca fait juste 1 an que je m'y étais préparé !

Mais ca reste dégoûtant à avaler ! Ce club stagne, voire fait un pas en avant, deux pas en arrière !
Podolski - RVP - Giroud, c'était une attaque de champion ! Avec RVP en moins, c'est une attaque pour jouer la 4ème place comme d'hab ...

Comment peut-on recruter Giroud pour remplacer RVP ? C'est ca l'ambition ?

On a beau s'y préparer depuis un an, c'est fou comme ca fout les nerfs une fois que c'est officiel ! :grrrrr:

Next : Song et Walcott.

[Taz]

EX-ARSENAL hero Paul Merson has warned Robin van Persie he will regret his decision to quit the Gunners.

 The Sun on Twitter

Merson said: "Not many players leave Arsenal and don't regret it. If they don't sell him, the fans are going to slaughter him."

Former Gunners striker ALAN SMITH said: "Van Persie is 28 and, at that age, it's all about winning medals.

"He thinks Arsenal can't win trophies and you probably have to agree with him."

And ex-midfielder RAY PARLOUR added: "Players move on quickly now. Arsenal have to get over it."

[Rudeboy]

Pour moi, il ne faut pas faire de sentiments, si il ne veut pas prolonger, il faut le revendre et essayer d'en tirer le maximum!!! Et réinvestir cet argent dans l'équipe!! Et basta!!

[Vince]

Comme toujours,Arseblog, pleins de bon sens :

So, as you're all no doubt aware at this stage, Robin van Persie released a statement yesterday in which he revealed, after thinking 'long and hard', that he would not be extending his Arsenal contract.

And if it were just that, then I don't think anybody would be too surprised or upset this morning. Realistically, if Robin had any desire to extend his Arsenal deal it would have been done by now. It could have been done at the end of the season, it could have been done at any time during last season, and the delay we got at the end of the campaign meant his decision should be no shock to anyone.

What it hugely disappointing, however, is the manner in which the statement was released and the overall tone of it. As I said yesterday, emotional attachment to footballers generally leaves you nursing a broken heart, but like many I had thought better of Robin and expected better from him. The tone was confrontational, antagonistic and was deliberately designed to make his position at the club untenable. That Arsenal had no idea whatsoever that such a statement was planned tells you that this was carefully planned to cause maximum damage.

I have to say I think Robin and his agent have badly misjudged the situation and are nowhere near as clever as they think they are. If they thought they could trade on the goodwill fans have towards van Persie after his remarkable and thoroughly enjoyable goalscoring spree, they were wrong. Arsenal fans have been through this too many times in recent years to be fooled by that kind of nonsense, and while the club do have to take a look at how his contract reached this stage, the attempts to pin all the blame on Arsenal backfired, in my opinion.

The statement is littered with, and I choose my words carefully here, bollocks. For example, when he talks about the meeting he had at the end of the season with Ivan Gazidis and Arsene Wenger:

Out of my huge respect for Mr. Wenger, the players and the fans I don't want to go into any details, but unfortunately in this meeting it has again become clear to me that we in many aspects disagree on the way Arsenal FC should move forward.

Perhaps if Robin were the manager this might be appropriate but he's a player, it's not. It doesn't matter if he's captain. This particular section of the statement is quite pointed. If you disagree in 'many aspects' with the manager about the club of which you are captain then it makes it very difficult to continue at that club. The thinly veiled criticism of the manager might well be something certain fans agree with, and we've all had our issues with Arsene, but it was a low blow coming from a player who has received nothing but 100% backing from the boss in all the time he's been here, through some very difficult times.

My goal has been to win trophies with the team and to bring the club back to its glory days.

So the way to fulfill that goal is to cause ructions and try and make the club sell you? Nice one.

I have always given my all (and more) on and off the pitch.

Well, he's certainly kept the medical staff busy. How much consideration did he give to how the club was going to move forward when he returned from international duty injured on more than one occasion? Or all those times he was crocked while playing for us? How is that after one full season in the eight years since we bought him he feels it appropriate to talk about giving his all. I'm not doubting his commitment when he plays, not by a long shot, but if he were an ever-present he might have a point. As a player whose absences have probably contributed to our lack of silverware, he doesn't.

There are untruths in there too. He said:

As soon as Mr. Gazidis is back from his 2-week holiday in America further meetings will follow and I will update you if and when there are more developments.

This prompted Arsenal's Director of Communications to flatly deny the claim on Twitter, but that this was in the statement at all is quite pointed indeed. It suggests that Gazidis is more concerned with his holiday than the future of the captain and I suspect there was a great deal of mischief making in the timing of this announcement.

The club responded with a statement of their own, saying:

We have to respect Robin's decision not to renew his contract. Robin has one year to run on his current contract and we are confident that he will fulfill his commitments to the Club.

We are planning with ambition and confidence for next season with Arsenal's best interests in mind.

It was pretty calm and measured when I'm sure behind the scenes there was anger and frustration at van Persie's little play. And there no doubt the club have got to take an inward look and assess why it was a player like Robin was allowed to run his contract down to this stage. The shambles that was last summer had a real impact, no doubt about it. I couldn't blame him for not signing back then, we were in a real mess, it looked like a club that lacked organisation and focus, and we're still feeling the effects of it in this situation.

On the face of it, it's not been a good 12 months for Gazidis or Stan Kroenke since he took over. Losing the captain, and one of the best players in the world last summer (as well as some French bloke nobody really likes), and now faced with the departure of the captain and best player again 12 months later isn't exactly encouraging.

Yet it's not as black and white as it seems. Arsenal are faced with a problem time and time again that most other clubs don't have to put up with: the money at Manchester City and their underhand, illegal tapping up. You don't have to examine the situation too much to realise that there's a huge offer on the table from them and this is what has sparked things off right now. And every summer it's the same, they come along, cherry pick the players they want and use the greed of players and agents to ensure the moves happen.

Perhaps this time around we're seeing a more proactive Arsenal though. We've signed two quality international forwards in Podolski and Giroud and even if van Persie leaves (and for me it's a case of when, not if) at least we've done some of the business we need to do good and early. I doubt either of them will score 30+ goals a season - what van Persie has done in the last 18 months has been incredible - but perhaps the aim is to spread the load, make us less reliant on one player and more of a collective again.

What's sad, however, is how Robin has done this. The statement looks like it was drafted by legal people with a few, quite patronising 'you guys' thrown in there to add some personality. It has, for all intents and purposes, made it impossible for him to continue at the club. He could easily have decided not to renew but left the option open whereby he could play out his final 12 months then go on a Bosman next summer. Who would have begrudged him that?

Instead he's created a situation where he's criticised the manager, the club, and done so while talking out of the other side of his mouth about 'respect' and 'love'. Give me a break. My guess is that Robin wants to go to Man City  - and while the stuff you hear about winning things and desire for trophies is credible, don't underestimate for one second the influence a quarter of a million a week has had. He and his agent are trying to engineer that move now. Putting Arsenal in a position where they have to sell him simply makes that move more likely.

We thought we had a captain who understood, a captain who felt what we felt, a captain who was in touch with the fans and what we thought. I've said all along my glass was on the half-empty side when it came to Robin's future but it's still hugely disappointing to see him behave in this way. The lack of respect for the manager, the club and the fans is what stings, not his desire to seek pastures new (even if the pastures he seeks are so hard to take).

So what do we do? Sell him. Simple as that. It's done, it's over, Robin has made that clear with his statement. He won't flat out say he wants to to leave but he's made it impossible for him to stay without a massive climbdown. With that in mind, let's put Robin on the market and choose the deal which best suits Arsenal. Not Robin van Persie. He's no longer important and we have no obligation to consider him or his desires in any decision we make.

I guess the writing was on the wall he spoke towards the end of the season:

If you ask the likes of Robert Pires how he feels, what he feels like he will say 'I feel like a Gunner' - and whatever happens with me I will always be a Gunner.

Sorry, Robin, after what you've just done and how you've done it, you won't be a Gunner in my eyes. Just another talented player who came and then left as the club went on.

And we will go on.

[Taz]

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[mex]

Au PSG
Super le challenge ....

Le truc c'est qu'il montre plus d'ambition que arsenal...plus d'argent aussi lol. Mais le championnat est trop moyen pour un joueur comme lui

[Vince]

Comment peut-on recruter Giroud pour remplacer RVP ? C'est ca l'ambition ?

On a recruté très tôt dans ce mercato le meilleur buteur du championnat de France (avec 21 buts), et le 4ème meilleur buteur (avec 18 buts) du championnat allemand. C'est ce que j'appelle de l'ambition.

[thegunners31]

Et comme chaque été, on repart à zéro car on ne se renforce pas, au contraire, on s'affaiblit un peu ... Mais bon, ca fait juste 1 an que je m'y étais préparé !

Mais ca reste dégoûtant à avaler ! Ce club stagne, voire fait un pas en avant, deux pas en arrière !
Podolski - RVP - Giroud, c'était une attaque de champion ! Avec RVP en moins, c'est une attaque pour jouer la 4ème place comme d'hab ...

Comment peut-on recruter Giroud pour remplacer RVP ? C'est ca l'ambition ?

On a beau s'y préparer depuis un an, c'est fou comme ca fout les nerfs une fois que c'est officiel ! :grrrrr:

Next : Song et Walcott.

Complètement d'accord  

[Taz]

giroud il est pas venu pour remplacer RVP à la base donc si vraiment on le vend je pense qu'arsène est assez lucide pour comprendre qu'il nous faut un autre bon attaquant pour être crédible en PL et en LDC !

sinon j'aime bien la lettre d'un fan à RVP ou il résume bien notre dégout :
(sorry c'est en anglais)

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all i said ...

[thegunners31]

Quelqu'un peut la traduire

[gunner4life]

Comment peut-on recruter Giroud pour remplacer RVP ? C'est ca l'ambition ?

On a recruté très tôt dans ce mercato le meilleur buteur du championnat de France (avec 21 buts), et le 4ème meilleur buteur (avec 18 buts) du championnat allemand. C'est ce que j'appelle de l'ambition.

oui on a recruté tôt pour éviter un aussi mauvais départ que l'année dernière, et je pense que le club savait que rvp allait partir mais attendez de vendre au plus cher.

[Parisiens Gunners]

Faudrait enlever la photo de couverture du site (tout en haut de la page) et mettre un joueur qui représente mieux les valeurs de ce club comme SONG, par exemple !!

[PieRR]

Quelqu'un peut la traduire

Trop long, j'ai pas le temps! Demain y'a moyen que je le fasse si tu veux

[Taz]

le mec

[Nytak]

Déjà posté Taz.

[Taz]

oops désolé pas vu
y à eu tellement de pages hier que j'ai loupé ça !

[arsenalwenger]

en football comme ailleurs l'argent est le nerf de la guerre !!!

Usmanov et farhad Morshiri qui possèdent à eux deux 29.72% des actions d'arsenal  ont écrit une lettre ouverte à Stan Kroenke  pour essayer de le faire bouger :

Yet again we are faced with losing our true marquee player at the club because we cannot assure him of the future direction and give confidence that we can win trophies.

"Where are the safeguards to ensure that this doesn't happen again and again in the future?

"As a top club we should at the very least match if not beat the offers that the other clubs make to try and lure our very best players away and also provide a compelling vision of the future.

"You can try and put a good face on a bad game for as long as you want, pontificating about the merits of this model but it will not hide the obvious fact that it just does not allow our great manager to fully realise his managerial talent and deliver success for the fans who are paying the highest prices in the land.

"It appears that a place in the Champions League will be the pinnacle of our ambition again next season. Unfortunately, in the future we may see this ambition lowered further."

Red and White, who do not have a representative on the board, feel Arsenal chief executive Ivan Gazidis has given the impression there is a \"bitter stand-off\" between themselves and the hierarchy.

The letter continued: \"In our view it is clear you are trying to distract attention from the more fundamental issues facing the club.

\"These are the financial model, the lack of investment and club's future strategic direction.

\"At the heart of this is the policy of so-called self-financing. The previous decision by the board to fund the building of the Emirates Stadium with long-term debt was, we believe, certainly not about self-financing.\"

Red & White, who point out they have \"invested circa £200 million of cash\", set out their \"vision\" for Arsenal.

The letter added: \"It is simple. A debt free club, with a big enough war chest to buy top talent players who can hit the ground running and who can complement the club's long tradition of developing young players and homegrown talent.

\"Together they can help the club win the most prestigious trophies - because it is the trophies which are the crowning achievement for everybody at the club.\"

Red & White closed their letter by wishing Kroenke \"every success\", although stressing they have \"deep reservations about the viability of the policies being pursued by his management team and sanctioned by the board\".

The letter concluded: \"Finally and reflecting our long-term commitment to the club, we will continue to purchase more shares in the club from anyone who wants to sell them to us.

\"Also in order to formalise our long-term involvement with the club and put an end to any speculation over our position, we, as the co-owners of Red & White, will proudly retain our holding in the club as a long-term investment for ourselves and our family members to benefit for generations to come.

\"We want the absolute best for the club and will do what is necessary to ensure the success of the club that we all love.\"

[FRANCOIS]

Le seul joueur qui a l' amour du maillot dans le football c' est Gerrard qui a toujours repoussé les avance du Real et City.

[gunners59]

Oui il n'y a que lui ... Giggs, Raul, Casillas ...

[DiosBergkamp]

Raul et Casillas jouaient au Réal, Giggs a Manchester, vachement sur de résister aux sirènes des autres clubs :lmao:et puis bon Gerrard à fait pression en disant qu'il voulait partir pour avoir un contrat en or, nous on ne peut pas et on ne veut pas.

[LRicky]

L'article de Arseblog posté par Vince est clairement ce que je pense de son départ, RVP pour moi n'est pas un mec a retenir dans notre histoire, il sera oublié comme nasri,Adebayor et autre Flamini ou  Touré. J'ai trouvé tres intéressante la lettre d'Usmanov et Morshiri, qui montre leur détermination a devenir majoritaire, et qui n'est pas fausse en parlant de la politique actuelle du club.

[gunner597]

c'est une guerre pour devenir actionnaire majoritaires c'est une lutte de pouvoir je ne commenterais pas sachant qu'on ne sais rien sur ce qui se passe au club

[Atys]

Oui moi aussi j'adhère à l'article de Arseblog , pas de légende , pas de statue , il restera juste un joueur qui nous aura fait rêver et qui au final nous aura déçu.
Dommage c'est pas la classe!

[Taz]

Ian Wright @IanWright0

We can no longer hold on to our top players ! Been saying it for years.

nous ne pouvons plus garder nos top players, je le dis depuis des années !

[Vince]

Tim Stillman interrogé sur talkSPORT : http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/andy-goldsteins-sports-bar/120705/stillman-van-persie-has-left-arsenal-win-trophies-175920